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Establishing that mechanism? >> again, we're not at that point so it is difficult to answer that question. i'm not dodging it. we aren't at that point right now. i would rather not speculate about it. there's no indication that we've gotten that there still isn't the ability at the strategic level for leaders to talk. >> you talked about, to build on the question, you talked about the f-35s and 32 apaches. it's not just an aircraft and a pilot. how many people are associated with those? >> all told, if you add it up, the infantry, the battalion, about 800, then another 200 crew, pilots, mainte...

At that point right now, courtney. it is difficult to answer that question. i'm not dodging it. it is just we aren't at that point right now. so i would rather not speculate about who would be in communications with whom. again, my answer to barb, there is no indication we have gotten there still isn't the ability at the strategic level for leaders to talk. jim? >> you talked about the -- to build on sylvia's question, you talked about the f-35s, and i guess 32 apaches. while it is not just an aircraft and pilot, how many people are associated with that -- with those moves? >> all told, if you...