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You can do that from a distance. those would probably be either highly defined mobile targets or fixed targets. clearly the advantage of unmanned aerial vehicles is you don't have a pilot at risk, and you don't have to have the additional capability of the search and rescue capability that has to be robust and has to be present in case there's either a maintenance or a downed aircraft problem, and you have to go rescue that pilot. so clearly it can be done, and it can be done without forces on the ground but it's not like close air support we would see where forces are in close combat and you'...

777, it's a pretty great safe aircraft. i mean, it's had a good track record, hasn't it? >> absolutely. of course, it was the subject of the asiana crash, but that turned out to be a pilot error problem, as well. in this particular aircraft, it has been around 20 years. it's one of the finest aircraft around. i certainly think that it's still a safe aircraft. i have no reason to think otherwise. i have actually booked my own son on one for this summer. so i don't think it's an aircraft problem. but we will soon see. >> yeah. and given the lack of information, jay, at this point, how, first of ...

An aircraft problem versus an airline problem? >> absolutely. when you look at the pressure rye zags cycle, it takes off and starts at landing. that's how we gauge an airplane, not in calendar years but cycles. for a boeing 737, it's young for its vintage, given the fact that other planes are 70, 80,000 cycles in the same vintage. that's why it's of concern to the ntsb and faa. in a please that even the manufacturer had not anticipated in the past. >> i've heard experts say and ntsb saying, this is not the kind of crack. you mentioned microscopic, right, that you wouldn't find it unless you we...

Even a year, they will be done at these periodic cycle intervals. >> okay. and that makes good sense. let's look at the boeing 737-300, 288 of which are currently operating in the u.s. fleet, about 931 worldwide. is there a concern among industry insiders about the 737-300? >> well, i think right now, the 737-300, which is the older generation 73 still in service, i think the concern is it's a heightened awareness because of these events, and of course, because southwest seems to be the unfortunate recipient of having these kinds of problems. but in these 288 aircraft, we're learning these les...