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Disclosure, why you disclose as a leader is different than why a journalist wants it disclosed as a member of the media. asha, do you like this move? why or why not? >> i don't like this move. and first to your first point, chris, about disclosure and transparency. i think that's absolutely essential in a democracy. that's how we keep our government accountable. however, this is an ongoing investigation. it is important to understand that. even though this particular fisa surveillance may be over, the sources and methods that were used to either obtain the fisa or what was uncovered during the...

>> and the reason the senator said "obviously" is because it is obvious. the problem is, it's equally obvious that it's so unlikely to be proven. so how do we judge this allegation from dr. ford? let's bring in aisha rangappa and ken cuccinelli. good to have you both. let's get to that issue and then i want to talk about how the politicians are dealing with this. aisha, she said it happened, he said it didn't. she said/he said is nothing unusual in the law. how do we assess in a court of public opinion, being that it doesn't seem that the white house will give it back to the white house to inv...

You -- and i ran into this as an attorney general, as well -- is predators, people who are sexually predacious repeat. it isn't a one-off occurrence. and there's no other evidence of that with judge kavanaugh. maybe something else will come up, but there's been an awful lot of attempts to smoke that kind of thing out, and it hasn't shown up. that's item number one. item number two is the only other person in the room flatly denies that it happened. so so far, the only person with corroboration that is specific to the incident in question is judge kavanaugh. even the therapist notes don't ident...

Because i don't trust anybody to tell me the truth, other than what i can discern with my own eyes and give it to the audience. >> amen. >> so given that i like disclosure, why you disclose as a leader is different than why a journalist wants it disclosed as a member of the media. asha, do you like this move? why or why not? >> i don't like this move. and first to your first point, chris, about disclosure and transparency. i think that's absolutely essential in a democracy. that's how we keep our government accountable. however, this is an ongoing investigation. it is important to understand t...

Prevent has actually happened. no, i actually teach this, thank you. that is what the wall -- >> those who can't teach. >> -- and lastly, there is a mechanism to review allegations of misconduct. that is the office of inspector general. that would be one avenue. the other is that congress could review these documents in camera, which they've already done. there are ways you don't need to spill it out to the public, which they don't really understand how to evaluate these things. and you know, this kind of misinformation from ken doesn't help either. >> asha, you're a former fbi special agent, ...