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Mitt romney was awkward in either of the venues. he just doesn't know how to come across on television or in person. and it shows and it's painful to watch. >> let's implement ma we'll call the biden scale. jfk on the stump. dana milbank, did he have that quality or not have the quality? >> i suspect jfk would have been chewed up today perhaps because we certainly rightly revere him for his quick wit and his gift as joy was saying on television. but i don't think would have seen him in the same retail politics capacity we're talking about now, and we would have picked him apart i think. >> joy...

So we like people that are on like "clerks." the politician that seems like a regular person, who seem approachable tend to do well. mitt romney was awkward in either of the venues. he just doesn't know how to come across on television or in person. and it shows and it's painful to watch. >> let's implement ma we'll call the biden scale. jfk on the stump. dana milbank, did he have that quality or not have the quality? >> i suspect jfk would have been chewed up today perhaps because we certainly rightly revere him for his quick wit and his gift as joy was saying on television. but i don't think...

In 2.6. virginia, president obama with a 4-point lead over romney. then wisconsin, and the president a lead there. what did you find interesting in the poll numbers today? >> for starter with the horse race numbers, colorado was surprising. romney is looking surprisingly strong there. however it's within the margin of error of the poll. what we thought was most interesting was for the attacks on romney and the working class, he has a great working class support. for all the attacks trying to put a when between obama and women -- wedge between obama and women, he has great women support. >> bre...

Faith, bret. it's a little weird to see, this is one of a series of speeches the vice president has been giving on behalf of the obama campaign, as the president does bits with jimmy kimmel his vice president is out there making the case i'm not convinced they can ride foreign policy too far in the race. i'm not convinced that too many americans give obama credit for killing usama bin laden as if bush didn't try hard enough or something. the effect is interesting because it will force romney to define his own foreign policy view with clarity. today, vice president accused him of being carbon c...

>> when they are intercepted and find out they're here illegally go through the laws of the land. >> bill: bus them back and put them on planes, boom that's going to cost a lot of money. >> not talking about knocking on people's doors. intercepted in the normal course of business they go back. >> bill: if they get picked up on traffic stop or something else. >> can i tell you why this is such a big problem? no we know why it's a problem. >> let me tell you why. there is a column that came out this weekend by mark steyn, he said 50% of the population of mexico has now gone north of the border. ...