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Mitt romney was awkward in either of the venues. he just doesn't know how to come across on television or in person. and it shows and it's painful to watch. >> let's implement ma we'll call the biden scale. jfk on the stump. dana milbank, did he have that quality or not have the quality? >> i suspect jfk would have been chewed up today perhaps because we certainly rightly revere him for his quick wit and his gift as joy was saying on television. but i don't think would have seen him in the same retail politics capacity we're talking about now, and we would have picked him apart i think. >> joy...

So we like people that are on like "clerks." the politician that seems like a regular person, who seem approachable tend to do well. mitt romney was awkward in either of the venues. he just doesn't know how to come across on television or in person. and it shows and it's painful to watch. >> let's implement ma we'll call the biden scale. jfk on the stump. dana milbank, did he have that quality or not have the quality? >> i suspect jfk would have been chewed up today perhaps because we certainly rightly revere him for his quick wit and his gift as joy was saying on television. but i don't think...