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Care debate. these unforced errors, these misstatements, insults. it doesn't help you build a coalition in the united states or around the world. >> i want to welcome john meacham to the panel, historian. what's the name of the book again you wrote about jefferson? >> jefferson i wrote "the art of power." jackson, "american lion." >> there it is right there. >> as long as you're a president with a j i write about it. >> let's get back to what's happening now. you guys saw angela merkel today, the two meeting today. the awkwardness between these two people, two of the most powerful people in th...

You're president with a j i write about it. >> since i have you, awkwardness between these two people, two of the most powerful in the world. saw the non hand shake in the oval office and was one later. seen meetings. canadian prime minister. different body language. this moment. what happened? >> he doesn't want to be there with her. obviously. and i think he -- there's no trumpian capacity for shame. we've learned that certainly. but he's spent a great deal of time on the campaign trail attacking her, saying she's ruined germany. one of the reasons we needed our ban on refugees from troubled...