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The numbers don't lie. you of people who are not returning. >> that's not correct. studies -- you need to look at the immigration counsel study that they did that updated the numbers. those individuals who are represent a by lawyers, that percentage goes to almost 90%. 80% really do show up. as you can see today when they said they released 300 people, if there was a real fear they weren't going to show up, they would not have released those people back into the public. if they were really criminal aliens -- >> tammy: actually they do and we do and thank you, tom and alan. i appreciate you bei...

The company itself or by these individuals. is that not correct? >> that's not correct. >> tammy: tom, tom. that is correct, actually pays to go with all due respect, alan doesn't know what he's talking about. this is a criminal investigation. has to do with identity theft and fraud. no one wants to talk -- everybody wants to talk about lulu aliens here illegally. >> if this was a criminal investigation. ignore the final order of removal and they stay here illegally. immigration -- you know better. you have to give people due process, ruled by an immigration judge and you demand your process, ...

Cuban government to take the decision of releasing mr. gross without giving any consideration whatsoever to the legitimate concerns of our country is no the a realistic approach. do you think that the u.s. should now consider some sort of trade? there are five americans -- well five cubans rather in american prisons, one has been released on humanitarian grounds but there are cubans in american prisons who were convicted on various charges, should they now be, you know, considered? some kind of -- in some kind of an exchange for your husband? >> em i'm not an expert in the cuban five. alan doe...