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Every human being is entitled to basic human dignity. we will see what happens. you're right, lawyer thrafplt is no suggestion that human trafficking, non consensual use of drugs and the like in the florida case or the state's attorney in palm beach county would have taken a very different look at the entire situation. >> laura: ken, julie brown is the reporter writing a lot about this and speaking about this on msnbc this week and said this. let's watch. >> how much push back pressure was brought to bare on that u.s. attorney's office from people connected to epstein and his attorney he's tha...

The states. it's a quintessential state offense of sexual roc wrong doi. alex disagreed with that. here is the irony. he was pushing for a harder kind of disposition, a tougher disposition, we ultimately came to an agreement that everyone was satisfied with but what has since happened has happened. >> laura: ken, now we learn of course there are allegations of trafficking people across state front. that would indicate at this point with apparently what the allegations are that this is now of course a federally triggered case because of the crossing state front correct. >> that would be, correc...

Interest here. i firmly disagree with these accusations. >> laura: ken, what you're saying is acosta took the hard line in the case. >> correct. >> laura: you were there in the room. >> i was in the room. >> laura: he's now out of the cabinet because of the media setting upon him 12 years later because of his association with donald trump. that is what is going on and happens in washington. mueller is testifying now, ken. they're moving it back to the 26th or so? 24th. >> yes. a week later. >> laura: thoughts on. that is that a sign of breakdown and negotiations of what he will talk about? >> ...

It's a quintessential state offense of sexual roc wrong doi. alex disagreed with that. here is the irony. he was pushing for a harder kind of disposition, a tougher disposition, we ultimately came to an agreement that everyone was satisfied with but what has since happened has happened. >> laura: ken, now we learn of course there are allegations of trafficking people across state front. that would indicate at this point with apparently what the allegations are that this is now of course a federally triggered case because of the crossing state front correct. >> that would be, correct, laura. th...

Basic human dignity. we will see what happens. you're right, lawyer thrafplt is no suggestion that human trafficking, non consensual use of drugs and the like in the florida case or the state's attorney in palm beach county would have taken a very different look at the entire situation. >> laura: ken, julie brown is the reporter writing a lot about this and speaking about this on msnbc this week and said this. let's watch. >> how much push back pressure was brought to bare on that u.s. attorney's office from people connected to epstein and his attorney he's that were high powered high priced a...