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Things is that the city of chicago sent in a lot of money. they say there's a problem here. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. so he basically said what would happen if you just throw enough money at a school like this so money isn't a factor. and that's what they did in the school for the last few years. they had millions of dollars extra to basically have aadulthoods wadults who could help protect them from the violence. >> alex, i was fascinated by what you did because i knew there were a lot of americans that didn't know. we have a society problem. from harper high all the way to newtown, i think people...

About it. the other thing is i don't think people understand the environment. i heard kids talk about the rules they have to live by on one of your tapes since you were there, alex, and was actually embedded in the school. let me play this sound byte to you talking to one of the students about what it is to live -- rules they have to go by. >> yeah, and i always welcome people. >> what's the advantage? >> it's not trying to get juc d jumped on or shot. everybody messes with somebody. >> so they have to walk in a group because no one will mess with you if you're walking in a group. so literally...

And i think you captured it in your work and, ira, for you putting it on, that's why i wanted to put it on the show tonight. and we'll have the principal on at some point. ira and alex, thank you both so much for joining us tonight. >> thanks for having us. >> ahead the first lady gets moving and brushes off her lame critics on the right. that's next. ♪

It's not guil ee's not about se territory. it's totally different i. when you hear it's a gang kid, you're really not understanding. >> you know, i was fascinated, alex, when you talked about how everyone in america should know harpo high. agt people killed, 21 wounded. you said if it was in another community, another type of people, the whole country would be out raged. tell me why you feel that way. >> the violence is great here. you know that as well as anyone. i think one of the things that was remarkable, you found this incredible collection of adults who, you know, provided this