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The administration paused too long? was there a time to push him out that we missed? >> well, you know, you really won't know the answer to that question until you see how this plays out. i think one of the things the libyan people, like any other people who are in process of freeing themselves, they want to do it themselves. people actually want and need to fight and win their own freedom. but that doesn't mean that we cannot help. i tried to sketch out some things we could do diplomatically to help. obviously, if there is a way to get weapons into the hands of the rebels, if we can get antia...

That's, i think, the context in which we should be looking at what we can do. >> stephen hadley, former head of the nsa, dr. ali errishi, i appreciate your insight. we'll try to get into the minds of republican hopefuls. wa. well that's great. you haven't seen him... my other can is ringing. progresso. hey can you tell my wife to relax and enjoy the view? (announcer) progresso. you gotta taste this soup. this is mary... who has a million things to pick up each month on top of her prescriptions. so she was thrilled that her walgreens pharmacist recommended a 3-month supply and would always be...

National security adviser stephen hadley and ali errishi. before we go any further, this is a bad guy, we get it. he's bombing and killing his own people and yet both of you willing had dealings with him. you as part of the bush administration when it opened relationships with moammar gadhafi. why? we know he's been a bad guy for four decades, so why deal with him? >> well, it was a very difficult decision, but what we got for being willing to resume relations with libya is that he gave up his weapons of mass destruction, his nuclear program, his chemical weapon program. that's all -- all that...

National security adviser stephen hadley and ali errishi. this is a bad guy, we get it. he's bombing and killing his own people and yet both of you willing had dealings with him. you as part of the bush administration when it opened relationships with moammar gadhafi. why? we know he's been a bad guy for four decades, so why deal with him? >> well, it was a very difficult decision, but what we got for being willing to resume relations with libya is that he gave up his weapons of mass destruction, his nuclear program, his chemical weapon program. that's all -- all that hardware is now in the un...

Find a way around. they have gadhafi overthrown, which they say is unlikely. the military isn't strong enough here. this isn't a country like egypt where the military is strong enough to twist the president's arm or force him out of office or in tunisia where the army said to the president, we're not going to back you, he had to go. that's what will happen here. it's unlikely to happen here. it's unlikely to have someone take a gun into the palace and put a gun to his head and say, the military is coming in, step down. so the potential here is for a long, drawn out war, unless you can get this...