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That the other guests have been talking about. but we also have, of course, this poverty gap and interestingly when you look at married black families, that number goes down to 8%. so what kind of policies can we implement that will encourage marriage in the black community. >> we have to wrap it up. want to give you the last word when it comes to that. >> i would also -- i agree with amy, i would say that unemployment is still twice that in the black community as it is in the white community. trump put brown children in cages and he just invited foreign interference in our elections and democ...

>> we have an entrepreneurship gap in america. african-americans are about half as likely to own their own businesses, to start their own successful businesses. what is the reason for that? it is capital. and why do we have that kind of black, white wealth gap? a big part of it is because of discrimination that was actively fostered by the united states government, that kept black families from being able to buy homes, and to build the wealth they would have built generation after generation. >> joining me now is jonathan alter, columnist for the daily beast and msnbc political analyst. also p...