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>> >> absolutely. as margaret thatcher once put it the problem with socialism is that socialist governments run out of spending other people's money. that's what's happened in california. >> bill: what about the intrusion, mr. moore, of the illegal alien problem? now, in los angeles, it cost an enormous amount of money. they won't police the borders, the state won't and the feds do a terrible job of it as well. so you add that. you add a big medical. estimated that all medi-cal payments elderly and poor is stolen. they don't have the people to watch it. it looks to me and i think the doctor sa...

>> >> absolutely. as margaret thatcher once put it the problem with socialism is that socialist governments run out of spending other people's money. that's what's happened in california. >> bill: what about the intrusion, mr. moore, of the illegal alien problem? now, in los angeles, it cost an enormous amount of money. they won't police the borders, the state won't and the feds do a terrible job of it as well. so you add that. you add a big medical. estimated that all medi-cal payments elderly and poor is stolen. they don't have the people to watch it. it looks to me and i think the doctor sa...

To want those goods and services that are now being done by illegal aliens at cut rate wages. >> any support from the leadership inst house? >> can't say. at this point we have lamar smith that deals with e verify and that will be first out as i understand it. it's already gone through the judiciary committee we will see how that plays out. there's a conflict between the language in my bill and congressman lamar smith's. but the principal is simple. my bill deals with allowing states and local governments to assist the government with the illegal alien problem in the states. and izona, the sta...

To want those goods and services that are now being done by illegal aliens at cut rate wages. >> any support from the leadership inst house? >> can't say. at this point we have lamar smith that deals with e verify and that will be first out as i understand it. it's already gone through the judiciary committee. we will see how that plays out. there's a conflict between the language in my bill and congressman lamar smith's. but the principal is simple. my bill deals with allowing states and local governments to assist the government with the illegal alien problem in the states. and arizona, the ...

You, i don't need a history lesson on african-americans from you. i can guarantee you that. >> apparently you do. >> we can stand here -- no, no, no. excuse me. we can stand here and go back and forth, back and forth. the point i'm making is we have an immigration problem today. we have people in congress, republicans in -- >> we have an illegal alien problem. >> -- who do not want to -- no, no. excuse me, sir. i haven't interrupted you. who don't want to confront the issue. this will not do it. it will not do it. what has to happen, you have to have bipartisan support to be able to confront t...