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Systematically isolating corridors and back people out. >> with a mall of this size, this is going to take a fair amount of time. >> it sounds, though, as if this was a particular area and it -- from the reports that we're getting here on the show, that they seem to have an area defined and one of the callers mentioned hearing dogs. so i guess they have -- looking for the smell of the gun powder and checking where the damage was. your first caller talked about gunshots, not rapid fire, like boom, like shoot, shoot. >> 15 to 20 seconds in between. >> exactly. so they most likely have an area. a...

Or so eastern time. a slow sequence of firing, anywhere from four to eight shots according to the eyewitnesss. the number varies from witness to witness. the one commonalty among all the eyewitnesss is that the shots were not in rapid succession. the police received reports that the gunman was shooting at security cameras, no reports of injuries or fatalities. nic robertson is on the scene. he joins us now. a chaotic scene and it's in the early minutes in an hour and a half after this began. >> anderson, it is. we are hearing from police that