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Names, children and beauty pageants, and in january 2012 an appearance on tv moaned about not being able to make fun of obese people. >> you can't even make fat jokes now. there is a whole segment of people. like that is almost the worst one. it is easier to do a racial thing than it is a fat one. everyone knows they are fat and get really offended. >> reporter: -- echoed just last week by trump's other son eric. in a radio interview he defend his fathers excellents on "access hollywood." >> locker room banter. that is really what it was. it was two, you know, alpha guys in a thing. and by the...

Everybody else wants and hillary clinton can't do it. >> okay. so let's talk about this, abby philip and ron brownstein join me again. thanks so much. so, abby, mr. trump is not concerned about his comments. but his surrogates continue to struggle to explain them. listen. >> -- it was locker room banter. i mean that's what it was. it was two, alpha guys in a thing. by the way, it's totally unacceptable. and he acknowledged that. and he apologized for it. but you know, two guys by themselves in private at some event, you know, going back and forth. >> the fact is that men at times talk like tha...