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would expend the political capital here. >> washington lost its collective mind on this yesterday. the chinese do spy on us. this goes back to maybe some cold war worry about something tangible looking up at us. the joke i had in my household is that they are getting a preview of the next season of "yellowstone." >> laura: "yellowstone?" what a riot sent around the comedy circuit. the chinese are laughing at us, that's for sure. the role of the pentagon under biden seems clear. unless we are talking about sending billions in weapons to ukraine, >> of the american aerospace defense...

Response was and is to builder expectations. they have contempt for us. when i worked at stanford university we worked with a neuroscientist lecturer who worked f for the people's liberation army -- >> laura: of course! >> we didn't inform the government that over ten years, a communist associated clientele from china donated 50 million to the universities. so it's everywhere. and until somebody stops it, it's going to continue. they have contempt for us. absolute contempt. >> laura: i want to get back to something that victor raised earlier. this is in the angle of the ultimate trial balloon....