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Break for boris johnson. he will face mps later after being fined for breaking his own lockdown laws. more than 50 penalties have now been issued for parties in government buildings. the chancellor, rishi sunak, got one, so did the prime minister's wife, carriejohnson. many are expecting more fines to come. in a statement in parliament later, mrjohnson is expected to apologise to mps. he is said to understand the strength of feeling about rule breaking in downing street. but he also wants to move on and focus on other issues, like the war in ukraine and the cost of living squeeze. his critics ...

He is said to understand the strength of feeling about rule breaking in downing street. but he also wants to move on and focus on other issues, like the war in ukraine and the cost of living squeeze. his critics say he should be resigning for breaking the law. in manchester yesterday, different opinions among voters. i think it should just be left now. yes, he has apologised, he said what he needed to say. just come out with the truth now. just get on with it. if nothing gets done about... obviously, these fines in the past, lyou know, it isjust going to keepl on going until the next a sort of...

Is that difficult? >> well, yes. have you to remember that these women near a situation where they have been in an environment where they have been abused and essentially tortured. so it's going to be very hard for them to trust any luman beings, even their family at first. i am sure, initially, they are going to be standoff-ish and guarded and wanting to protect themselves. but to be in a situation like this, your mind has to go to a place where it can defend itself to -- it's just a self preservation instinct. >> jamie: is there any sense by people who go through this -- i am thinking of sha...

Welcome to our guests. >> hi. >> hi, there. >> shannon: were the votes about conscience or re-election? >> lyou know, i will tell you something, what happened with the amendment, of course, that everyone was relying ont when it came to the gun control effort. the fact is, you have a bunch of democrat who is voted against that because they are needing re-election. they weren't going to sacrifice themselves or their careers for anabomma agend a. i would suggest for a democratally controlled senate, write a bill that can pass. it seems like none of them -- neither the republicans or the democrats...

Talk about what happened and what is unfolding there. >> lyou know, sean, what is interesting about this is just how you describe these shootings. have you two gunning membersn involved in both of these shootings and i think people are passing over the conduct that gangs are involved in -- violence, drugs and other violent crimes. so to have the police interact with them is not shocking and have them engaged in a deadly encounter is not shocking whatsoever. but everybody's just kind of blowing over that fact. it's disturbing. >> sean: one of the problems we have in almost every case, mark, and...