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spent offer r. on resodding. only money spent protesters. we can be angry about the money. >> i walk by that park every day it look looks beautiful minus the campers. of all the things we have to be upset about i would not choose. this honestly it's a complete eyesore. you have people vagrants walking in and out. the rat population has exploded in that area. frankly that's not exactly something that i call anything of beauty. >> bill: now, the bottom line on this is that the occupy movement is costing people money, taxpayers money. you both agree with that this comes under the banner of freedom of expression. it is costing the taxpayers money in every city. police resources where they camp out. have to clean it up. the crime and all of that okay. now, alyssia, you heard the bain thing and, you know, any impression on that? is this much to do about nothing? 30 seconds. >> other than the fact that it made my head hurt.
>> bill: factor follow up segment tonight, the head of the police union in washington, d.c. says that because the occupy wall street movement has been occupying the attention of police for three months, violent crime has risen dramatically in d.c. just yesterday in washington, 13-month-old baby rescued by police in an occupy camp site ar parentally father left her their unattended he has been charged. from the district of columbia alicia menendez a democratic consultant. the reason i'm doing this story is because i think the occupy movement is pretty much done myself personal opinion when you get the head of the police union saying violent crime has raised 10 to 15% because these people have been in town because the cops have got to look at them and got to watch them all the time and you say what? alyssia? >> i don't understand, given that d.c. is very accustomed
>> bill: factor follow up segment tonight, the head of the police union in washington, d.c. says that because the occupy wall street movement has been occupying the attention of police for three months, violent crime has risen dramatically in d.c. just yesterday in washington, 13-month-old baby rescued by police in an occupy camp site ar parentally father left her their unattended he has been charged. from the district of columbia alicia menendez a democratic consultant. the reason i'm doing this story is because i think the occupy movement is pretty much done myself personal opinion when you get the head of the police union saying violent crime has raised 10 to 15% because these people have been in town because the cops have got to look at them and got to watch them all the time and you say what? alyssia? >> i don't understand, given that d.c. is very accustomed
spent offer r. on resodding. only money spent protesters. we can be angry about the money. >> i walk by that park every day it look looks beautiful minus the campers. of all the things we have to be upset about i would not choose. this honestly it's a complete eyesore. you have people vagrants walking in and out. the rat population has exploded in that area. frankly that's not exactly something that i call anything of beauty. >> bill: now, the bottom line on this is that the occupy movement is costing people money, taxpayers money. you both agree with that this comes under the banner of freedom of expression. it is costing the taxpayers money in every city. police resources where they camp out. have to clean it up. the crime and all of that okay. now, alyssia, you heard the bain thing and, you know, any impression on that? is this much to do about nothing? 30 seconds. >> other than the fact that it made my head hurt. i don't know what bizarre
go ahead. >> right. alyssia is correct that there are political and cultural implications here. as far as the actual groups who would have supported say, like pro-is asimulation policies and that kind of thing. they actually kept him out of their group. so they were not connected in any way. >> bill: there isn't a christian group on earth who would embrace this man. no one. >> about the "new york times" and whether these things are intentional. you do have to look at the record here. and when the left and the media were so blazingly spectacularly and i think many times intentionally wrong many times about jared laughner all they want to do is pin that on the tea party. been the narrative for three years and they keep doing it. >> bill: doesn't go back just muslims. goes back to me on "the view." >> bill, we have the "the washington post," we have the "wall street journal." also assuming that this was a jihadist before they had all of the facts. so i think you have wrongdoing on both sides. >> that's their fault. they didn't banner it after thought and sitting down. they just took the initial reports that are always erroneous.
that it's appalling but we can also agree that there is another narrative going on here which is that this man was clearly very radical in his beliefs. this is not him just r rmly opening fire. >> bill: that's a political situation, which is different. >> my point bill is that that to me is the greater crime here. that in trying, in using the term christian they buried what was the real lead which was that he was radical in his political beliefs. >> bill: this guy was anti-muslim bigot. that's what he was. that's what the record shows. all of his rantings and ravens on the net comes back to the fact, mary catherine, that he didn't like the muslim intrusion into norway and into europe. that's what drove him. not jesus. not being baptized. nothing to do with that. yet. yet. it was distorted. go ahead. >> right. alyssia is correct that there are political and cultural implications here.
you don't lose a baby, a 2-year-old and not call the authorities for a month. okay? number one. and all of the other strange behavior. so what do you think so far about this trial? >> well, let me take off my reporter hat and put my mom hat on. most parents have unconditional love for their child and exactly what you have just said i don't think the jury is going to get past past this 31 days. she is out partying and out entering hot body contests. by the way it was not until her own mother smelled a dead body in the trunk of her car that she suddenly alerted authorities. it wasn't even her doing that listen, when any mother or father has a child that gets a scrape on their knee or falls off their bike, panic goes through them about the safety of their child. can you imagine having your child missing for 31 days? this isn't going to go by the jury, no way. >> what do you think, alyssia? based upon what you know in the public domain of this case? >> i mean, as gretchen said,
you don't lose a baby, a 2-year-old and not call the authorities for a month. okay? number one. and all of the other strange behavior. so what do you think so far about this trial? >> well, let me take off my reporter hat and put my mom hat on. most parents have unconditional love for their child and exactly what you have just said i don't think the jury is going to get past past this 31 days. she is out partying and out entering hot body contests. by the way it was not until her own mother smelled a dead body in the trunk of her car that she suddenly alerted authorities. it wasn't even her doing that listen, when any mother or father has a child that gets a scrape on their knee or falls off their bike, panic goes through them about the safety of their child. can you imagine having your child missing for 31 days? this isn't going to go by the jury, no way. >> what do you think, alyssia? based upon what you know in the public domain of this case? >> i mean, as gretchen said, this woman is clearly deeply
you don't lose a baby, a 2-year-old and not call the authorities for a month. okay? number one. and all of the other strange behavior. so what do you think so far about this trial? >> well, let me take off my reporter hat and put my mom hat on. most parents have unconditional love for their child and exactly what you have just said i don't think the jury is going to get past past this 31 days. she is out partying and out entering hot body contests. by the way it was not until her own mother smelled a dead body in the trunk of her car that she suddenly alerted authorities. it wasn't even her doing that listen, when any mother or father has a child that gets a scrape on their knee or falls off their bike, panic goes through them about the safety of their child. can you imagine having your child missing for 31 days? this isn't going to go by the jury, no way. >> what do you think, alyssia? based upon what you know in the public domain of this case? >> i mean, as gretchen said, this woman is clearly deeply
world. it's behind a thousand times worse although i don't know how you get much worse than what schwarzenegger did. so, we're in a changing world here now the question becomes also. schwarzenegger did a dismal job alyssia as governor of california. as we pointed out last night when he took office the debt of the state was about 32 billion. when he left, it was 92 billion. okay? this guy had lost control early on something like he was hiding, a double life that kind of thing can absolutely impact on your job, can it not? >> absolutely. i think that again, is what makes this so disturbing is the distraction is the double life and, again, is the lengths that people are going to to cover it up which is often what done legal nuances that forces them to resign, to quit. but, bill, you know, i just don't know what these people are thinking. >> bill: it doesn't really matter what they are thinking. what matters is they have power.