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It has to increase and it has increased. >> the biggest thing to me is that you've got this intense politics around crime. in new york city, you're seeing it, we're at this boiling conflict point. and you have people very frustrated with the way they feel that they're policed. everyone has their theory. everyone who's part of it thinks the thing that they doid e did and if you take that away, we're back to the battle days. and that just is not true. >> it is amay e maizing what's happening in the past 5 e 50 years is this crime drop to go from 2200 murders a year to just over 300. that's what ...

Give them support, they're going to make smarter stops. it has to increase and it has increased. thoo e these are all good signs. >> the biggest thing to me is that you've got this intense politics around crime. in new york city you're seeing it we're at this boiling conflict point. and you have people very frustrated with the way they feel that they're policed. everyone has their theory. everyone who's part of it thinks the thing that they doid e did and if you take that away we're back to the battle days. and that just is not true. >> it is amay e maizing what's happening in the past 5 e 50 ...