MSNBC Dateline June 4, 2024 03:34:00
Look, when you say to someone, i bought a house, are you lying because you have not paid for it in full at the time? i made a pledge and that pledge is made overtime, by its nature. >> you're splitting hairs a little bit, because when you say i donated, you know that everybody thinks that you've donated it. not that you've pledged it. so, for the jury sitting there, do you think they felt like that was you getting caught in a lie? >> i don't know because so much of the -- i feel like, so much of the trial was meant to cast dispersions on who i am as a person, my credibility, call me a liar in ...