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And i think as we see in the polling, there's a loyalty of confusion as to what this actually means. the opposition to amendment one is well over 50%. i wanted to ask you about how faith and race is playing how this is arguing on the ground playing into the black clergy and home ma phobic rhetoric? and can you just talk a bit about that? >> that's a great question. and we're seeing some very interesting and exciting things happen, i think, in a positive response to that, which is to say that, you know -- clearly uses a strategy that tries to divide the african american community and the lgbt c...

Robert barber from the naacp. >> thank you, melissa. >> reverend barber, it is lovely to speak to you directly and you were first foot soldier on the program in part because of your work against amendment one in north carolina. do two things for me. first, can you tell me about what amendment one is so that the viewers will know, and then i want to ask you why the naacp as a national organization does not take a holistic stance on the issue of same-sex marriage. >> well, first of all, melissa, thank you for allowing us to come on. this amendment is really an attempt to put to a poplar vote a c...

Amendment one has the potential for disastrous effect. we've got to attract that generation. we've got to vote no on amendment one. >> we know they've aligned oaths. allied with lgbt equality and in america, that politics can be decisive in the long term. thanks for the gallop survey, we know that retirement is slipping away from americans. we know that the expected retirement has risen from 60 to 67. we know that new york times columnist joan nacera who wrote an article about how wonderful and dem crate ie iic it was tha americans have invested in the 401(k)s and the stock market has now pu...

Be openly gay and not just be fired for it, although, of course, legally you can still be fired for being gay. and then, amendment one in north carolina, which the polling looks like, as it currently stands, is likely to pass. i wonder if anyone feels like we've gotten out ahead. this is a useful reminder of how the prejudices are. >> if a drunken man is about to fall into the gutter, than we can be assured he'll do some lurches away from the gutteder. i think that's what this is. but when automobiles came in, there were horse and buggy clubs. that didn't mean that cars were having a problem a...

they face the death penalty if convicted. but that could take years. families of 9-11 victims want to see just particular like chris and christina russell whose brother was a firefighter in one of the towers when it collapsed. >> it has to be the death penalty, doesn't have to be an ugly death, you can select what you wish off the menu. they have experts that deal with. >> life in prison drags it out and costs us government money, and it just -- it lingers in the back of your head these people are still alive. they are not glorious, it would bring closure. >> hopefully. >> other fami...