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Means they get less money, and give them tax credits. that's the plan? >> that's the fundamental essence, is empower people. rather than expanding government to where it's not sustainable. american taxpayers can't foot this bill because they are tapped out. >> all right. i'm sorry. one second. we have a guest here who is whispering to my ear that she wants to ask you a question. i'm going to let one of my guests in. you seem to have a question for the congressman, and if you don't mind, i want to let her ask that question. >> well, the tax credits are less under the senate bill, so they are lo...

Essence of what we are trying to do is empower people than expanding government to a point where it's not sustainable. american taxpayers can't foot this bill endlessly and without a limitation because they are tapped out. >> all right. sorry, one second. we have a guest here whispering that she wanted to ask you a question. i want to let one of my guests in. she has a question for you. tara, you seem to have a question for the congressman. if you don't mind i want to let her ask that. >> the tax credits are less under the senate bill, so they are lowered so while you are taking away medicaid ...

Democrats going to be doing? he's a democratic senator from maryland. we said, what are democrats going to be doing? republicans may vote on this bill by the end of the week. could they be a part of the amendment process? make this somewhat better? he responds, it was pretty telling, having people in maryland calling places like nevada where senator helder is on the fence, their agenda is to kill this bill. you can hear the applause here, there was 3 00 people here who have come to a democratic town hall event to express concern over where the health care bill will go. the health uninsured rat...

Differences get resolved. joining me now tom reid of new york member of the ways and means committee. thank you for joining us. >> thank you for having me on. >> you voted for the house health care bill. that version. we were talking about the differences between the two bills. what is a nonstarter to you if it comes back kicked to the house with a change. >> i don't think there is a nonstarter. i think we have to go through the process and i appreciate the senate moving the ball forward. we can look at where the senate comes down where they have their amendment process and we'll work out the ...

The house calling it mean. you have seen that a talking point and did he damage the trajectory of this bill. do you worry this is going to come back and bite him in essence? >> i'll let the president speak for himself in regards to his assets. i don't think they were helpful. at the end of the day, it is what it is and we'll have to keep moving forward. the american people are suffering as a result of the policies that are here now today. we have to fix this. we have to deal with this. solve problems for the american people. >> let me drill down on a point here. you talked about the opioid cri...