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The top luminaries in american foreign policy, including every living secretary of state. this is his first tv interview around the new book, "war on peace: the end of diplomacy and the decline of american influence." pleasure to have you on. >> pleasure it be here, fareed. >> at a time when there are sensitive negotiations going on over north korea, at a time when the iran deal seems in peril, i want to ask you, what is the big problem you see with this -- this sort of short shrift being given to diplomacy, with the state department budget being cut? there are a lot of people who say, that's ...

Not an impossible proposition but a very difficult proposition for us to go after them militarili. >> sure. let me ask you about china and the importance of china in any kind of negotiations and pressure on the regime. there are some who argue that, you know, a unified korean peninsula would be against chinese interests because, you know, that north korea is a blunt to the american ally, american influence, via south korea. and that is in chinese interests to have an unstable, unstable north. what do you make of that, what the chinese motives are here? >> well, i think, christine, there are so...

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