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>> i think there's going to be a robust debate. and i think it's really important that you're pointing out this distinction and divide in the republican party because it is real and i think it is more divisive than the issues a lot of other people focus on. there is a base of the republican party who really sees a strong america, who believes we have -- who almost has this view of american interventionalism that we have a moral purpose. and that's not a right-left divide. it really is a philosophical divide about america's role in the world. but there is a growing segment of the republican par...

More divisive than the issues a lot of other people focus on. there is a base of the republican party who really sees a strong america, who believes we have -- who almost has this view of american interventionalism that we have a moral purpose. and that's not a right-left divide. it really is a philosophical divide about america's role in the world. but there is a growing segment of the republican party that believes in more isolationism along the lines of what rand paul believes. so this is going to be a big, loud debate. >> and my point is that they don't have a candidate. that they know wha...