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My dream. Is to. Her. We are here with Deborah Cowan and John McCutcheon and we re going to talk today about the challenges that we re facing in terms of making a living as a musician and what some people are doing about it welcome guys thank you thank you John let s start by talking about what it s like in the streaming age the age of Spawn of not I and or and how that has changed. You know the world what is it the point 000015 sense that we get for 20 streams maybe a 100 streams it s not a lot I m not sure how we change that but one of the things we are trying to change is how live music can support working musicians that it used to be different not so much in the acoustic music world I mean I understand the model of of the recording industry has been you know 3 feet stuck in the liberate tarpit of capitalism for ever and it s a losing business model 80 percent of what they what the recording industry would take a chance on they knew would fail would not make its money back and 20 p ....

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