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what became extremely extremely common meme in the american electorate. >> yeah, look, and to what julia is saying, i'm very skeptical, having sat down with russian intelligence officers, my sense is that russia understands u.s. customs and politics as an outsider. it tends to be that it feels like there were more than just the russians involved. there had to have been americans directinging whether advising them how to do this. this is far too targeted for someone in russia to figure out the specs. i go back to the intelligence collection. that is code for spying. to me that means they wer...

>> yeah, look, and to what julia is saying, i'm very skeptical, having sat down with russian intelligence officers, my sense is that russia understands u.s. customs and politics as an outsider. it tends to be that it feels like there were more than just the russians involved. there had to have been americans directinging whether advising them how to do this. this is far too targeted for someone in russia to figure out the specs. i go back to the intelligence collection. that is code for spying. to me that means they were recruiting the other part was they didn't go into detail, u.s. persons to...