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Does not seem to be much urgency here in washington to resolve this problem, and the shutdown could last for many more days to come. abby philip, cnn, the white house. >> abby, thank you for the reporting. let's bring in james davis, dean of political science at the university of saint gallen. this hour fliefrm us in live for us in munich, germany. >> good morning, george. >> this shutdown, the word now, james, this could go for several weeks into the new year. and neither side really having the motivation to move toward the middle. lawmakers even seem less optimistic. listen. >> if the democr...

Republicans believe he should shut down the government over the border wall. and so although this is hitting his overall popularity and certainly he's extremely unpopular with democrats now, 90% disapprove of him, and very increasingly unpopular with independents, when it comes to his base, which is what donald trump seems to have been preoccupied with ever since he announced his candidacy for president, he's largely delivering on that issue that they care about. >> richard, you know, here's the thing. we're seeing that lawmakers are less than optimistic about what lies ahead. let's listen. >>...

Compromise. i she as a compromise, and so certainly if that's on the table, you would find a number of republican members encouraging the president to go ahead hand accept that. >> i want to ask you about something that happened earlier this year. there was a deal on the table, included 25 billion. >> right. >> now we're talking about 1.3, 25 billion for border security, including the wall in exchange for a number of changes to the immigration system. >> right. >> and -- and at least legal status for so call dreamers, children who come to america illegally with their undocumented parents. give...

>> congressman, i want you to listen to what the house freedom caucus chairman mark meadows told our dana bash earlier today. he is saying democrats were never serious about this negotiation. let's listen to that. >> the democrats are not willing to put up even 2.5 or $2.6 become. they were never serious about it. they were wanting the amnesty portion. not the border security portion. when you look at that, that's one of the tragedies of today. >> your response to the congressman on that. >> listen, we have a broken immigration system that clearly need to be fixed. we need to do it through com...