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Item? speak of the most important thing is he is not intimidated. we had republican congress for six year with record majority, and they did nothing. they pledged to do obamacare and defund his illegal amnesty programs and they funded him. why? because they were scared of being called obstructionists and racists. moma in the campaign came in the second debate when trump faced the cameras with hillary on straight and said you have to understand, hillary has tremendous hatred in her heart. so does the democratic party, have hatred in their hearts for republicans. it's all come out now. you see i...

Enforcement. gemu greenee a fox news contributor. i'm glad to talk to you both. julie you first. we heard from the union heads who represent these bode der agents that the policy the president has put in place is really tying their hands and preventing them from being able to do their jobs. why? >> they are concerned that there are no standards in place to prevent fraud. and historically many of these amnesty programs, with very good intentions had tons of fraud and you ended up having terrorists or transnational criminals enter our country and gain legal documentation, and the immigration age...

They are responsible for customs and a variety of other things. let's deal specifically with illegal aliens. yes, they are outgunned and out manned, they don't have -- martha: that isn't what it says in here. when you read what these people wrote, they are not saying we need more money we -- they are saying our boss is not letting us do the job we're supposed to be doing because he's too busy out there arguing for amnesty programs. it doesn't say please help us we don't have enough men. >> that's exactly what it's saying if you read the letter. martha: i did read the letter. >> we are talking ...

>> a sophomore at harvard and the daily beast, interesting what harvard is doing, amnesty programs. look, we know what's going on, but let's not have penalties behind this, right? >> yeah, harvard has a problem where it about any student seeks help for a friend and ends up to university health services there won't be repercussions, disciplinary actions taken and that's important because students feel much more comfortable getting help for a friend who might be in sick, in danger and don't risk their friend's health and life, based on fear of repercussions. >> an odd consequence of this policy ...

Hit hard. jane: interesting when you talk about no sympathy. other states have done amnesty programs, in new jersey it was very successful. they took a totally different approach, they took a sympathetic approach they said, we know you're in the hole these days, we are in a recession, here is an opportunity to dig yourself out of one. did you have any indication that there would be blow back from this. >> i don't care that there is blow back. 97% of pennsylvania citizens who pay their taxes want us to go after these people. what do you think they prefer, raising their taxes or going after thes...