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Joining me now are two distinguished doctors. dr. amy barnhurst is the vice chair of psychiatry at uc davis and of course dr. sanjay gupta is cnn's chief medical correspondent and a neurosurgeon at emory clinic. amy, let me ask you, explain to us how to think about this. at some level, i suppose people assume that somebody who goes in and kills a whole bunch of people, particularly children, or innocents in any event, is by definition, insane. >> yeah. and it's really hard to sit here and say that those guys were paragon of psychological we wellness. obviously, there's something going on in th...

Illness. so where is the disconnect? joining me now are two distinguished doctors. dr. amy barnhurst is the vice chair of psychiatry at uc davis and of course dr. sanjay gupta is cnn's chief medical correspondent and a neurosurgeon at emory clinic. amy, let me ask you, explain to us how to think about this. at some level, i suppose people assume that somebody who goes in and kills a whole bunch of people, particularly children, or innocents in any event, is by definition, insane. >> yeah. and it's really hard to sit here and say that those guys were paragon of psychological wellness. obviously...