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Time, because -- >> sure. chris: -- in 2014 president obama used his executive powers -- >> right. chris: -- to try to protect five million immigrants, and here's what you said at the time. >> right. this is wrong, it's irresponsible and will do damage to our efforts to fix a broken immigration system. this is a tremendous presidential overreach. chris: so why was that an overreach for president obama then but not for president trump now? >> well, what president obama did, he didn't declare a national emergency about the daca recipients. he took his power to pardon an individual or a small gro...

Time, because -- >> sure. chris: -- in 2014 president obama used his executive powers -- >> right. chris: -- to try to protect five million immigrants, and here's what you said at the time. >> right. this is wrong, it's irresponsible and will do damage to our efforts to fix a broken immigration system. this is a tremendous presidential overreach. chris: so why was that an overreach for president obama then but not for president trump now? >> well, what president obama did, he didn't declare a national emergency about the daca recipients. he took his power to pardon an individual or a small gro...

Emergency path, i stand with you. he said just 30 minutes ago that's my last, last option. i think the legislative route is the best way to go. let's take a deal, but i'll do it if i had to. so we have found in the past presidents declared emergencies for different things. i am going to support him. before he pulled the plug on the legislative option -- and i think we're almost there -- i would urge him to open up the government for a short period of time, like three weeks, before he pulls the plug, see if we can get a deal. if we can't at the end of three weeks, all bets are off. see if he ca...

Trusting god that our son will be returned safely. and it is only through prayers and support of others that we have actually been able to survive because this is something that, that you are not trained for. you are not prepped for, and one can never imagine the difficulty that you would experience when you your loved child just disappears. and without any accountability or, idea where he is at. when, when he has such a history of being so responsible. and dependable that i think that is what puts us all at such disbelief we are at this state. >> let me ask you, mrs. cunningham. i know that y...

Thanks very much. off to the southwestern united states facing another threat of flooding. derek van dam joins us now with the weather. you must be pretty upset about south africa losing. >> that was a tough one to swallow. i spent seven of my last in south africa. i fell in love with the sport of rugby. i mean, it's a phenomenal sport. you can't not fall in love with rugby when you live in a country like that. to see them lose, that's tough. some of my friends, i feel for you guys. the facebook posts, they've been wild for the past couple of hours. lynda, we've been talking about the floodi...