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But the real damage is people coming across the border selling drugs, killing americans. that needs to come to an end. so the real damage is a broken border compared to a partial shutdown. the president's not going to give in, no wall, no deal, but he's ready to deal. and is your next guest, i am sure, would provide funding for a barrier where it made sense if you could get something for it. chris: you have been one of the loudest voices among republicans urging -- [laughter] the president to declare a national emergency. i've -- two questions, one, why doesn't he just go ahead and do that? he...

But the real damage is people coming across the border selling drugs, killing americans. that needs to come to an end. so the real damage is a broken border compared to a partial shutdown. the president's not going to give in, no wall, no deal, but he's ready to deal. and is your next guest, i am sure, would provide funding for a barrier where it made sense if you could get something for it. chris: you have been one of the loudest voices among republicans urging -- [laughter] the president to declare a national emergency. i've -- two questions, one, why doesn't he just go ahead and do that? he...

The president has to sit and talk to these farmers about whether money isn't flowing over this whole thing. if things don't start a change in terms of the public. the president has a growing support for the wall. so it is really interesting. senator graham had a suggestion, let's watch and listen to that end i want to get your marks. >> sounds good. >> i would urge him to open up the government for a short period of time, like three weeks, before he pulls the plug. see if we can get a deal. if we can at the end of three weeks, all bets are off. see if you can do it by himself come with the eme...

Emergency path, i stand with you. he said just 30 minutes ago that's my last, last option. i think the legislative route is the best way to go. let's take a deal, but i'll do it if i had to. so we have found in the past presidents declared emergencies for different things. i am going to support him. before he pulled the plug on the legislative option -- and i think we're almost there -- i would urge him to open up the government for a short period of time, like three weeks, before he pulls the plug, see if we can get a deal. if we can't at the end of three weeks, all bets are off. see if he ca...