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They're not waging a proxy war, the background briefing by a senior administration official made it quite clear and if you're the iranians you're hearing this, but the trump administration is it trying to make the distinction outside of the four corners of the nuclear agreement and that it's not interested in opening up the agreement or walk away from it is going to further create ambiguitity of further strength and resolve. >> amy you just left the national security council. the president should not quote make a toy of himself, what do you make of this escalating back and forth, amy? >> what ...

Of transactions and of course this trump administration very sensitive to the fact that it might be lifting sanctions, it really isn't that, it's a minor easing, so it's really just to allow those non-sanctions, technical ko technical transactions to take place. >> initially you see the headline and you think oh, my goodness, thank you so much. >> joining me now dana bash, amy poke, the deputy security advisor as the national security council. dana, first, is this any different on the stance on iran? >> very different. particularly in the months and years of the obama administration, because t...