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Skeen about me over the last four years in my dealings with you is that i deal with you directly. and i say exactly what i think. and i think over time i have developed a reputation for telling you all the truth. as i see it. there could be disagreements. but the truth as i see it. >> amy, what's the leak there? >> well, it's the "as i see it." that is strange. why is it the truth as i see it? why isn't it just the truth? additionally, what pamela meyer points out in the book, is he -- the fact that someone has to tell you that they're going to tell you the truth indicates they may be lying. >...

And there's a lot of soul searching that goes around with this. believe me, john, i haven't had a lot of sleep the last two nights, and i've been doing a lot of soul searching. i'm sick over this. >> amy, his sleep pattern is not particularly relevant, but we heard a lot about it. >> yes, we did. and the thing is that he also said in that section that he was soul searching. so he's saying this multiple times. and as a persuasive speaker he knows how to get on the side of our emotions. he knows what he needs to do to win us over. and he's doing that there. he's not answering the question. what ...

But the truth as i see it. >> amy, what's the leak there? >> well, it's the "as i see it." that is strange. why is it the truth as i see it? why isn't it just the truth? additionally, what pamela meyer points out in the book, is he -- the fact that someone has to tell you that they're going to tell you the truth indicates they may be lying. >> amy, i'm telling you the truth. we're out of time for this segment. thank you very much for joining me tonight, amy. >> thank you very much. coming up -- chris christie said he fired his campaign manager because he didn't like the tone of his e-mails. ...

>> if you were to get a subpoena for whatever reason, what would you do? >> i'm not going to speculate on that. >> joining me now, salon writer and screenwriter amy punt. amy, i think us screenwriters look at these things the same way. i'm very glad you caught those contradictions the same way i did. i want to look at the other items that you highlighted. and you use this book about lie detection as your guide in putting this piece together. you went to the issue of evading questions. and let's look at the example. we'll look at the video example of what you used there. let's look at this. >> ...

>> what does it make me ask about me? it makes me ask about me what did i do wrong to have these folks think it was okay to lie to me? and there's a lot of soul searching that goes around with this. believe me, john, i haven't had a lot of sleep the last two nights, and i've been doing a lot of soul searching. i'm sick over this. >> amy, his sleep pattern is not particularly relevant, but we heard a lot about it. >> yes, we did. and the thing is that he also said in that section that he was soul searching. so he's saying this multiple times. and as a persuasive speaker he knows how to get on t...