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Understand the broader scope of the january 6th commission. stuart rhodes. and jeffrey clark. he was interviewed for nrly two hours yesterday. rhodes helped spread conspiracy about election fraud. clark wanted to help donald trump push his bogus fraud claims and at one point urged the then president to put him in charge of the justice department. with us to share their reporting and insights, asma and tia mitchell. i want to start with you in the sense when you look at these two very different witnesses, it gets at the scope. you are talking about stuart rhodes, the oathkeepers, the alex jones...

Effective player in washington, d.c. but he's divisive and i know he works with republicans and democrats. i know progressives think he's too modest. but he's a divisive guy. you go back and look at what he said during his years in the house of representatives. he said unkind things about republicans, about general petraeus. for a guy talking about hope and change and bringing people together, it's unusual to have him as your chief of staff. >> what about this peter rouse? >> he's not rahm. he's a much different guy. he's close to the president which is clearly one of the reasons he was picked...