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Itreat them all as if, they are hot and energized. stay away from any downed wire, call 911 and call pg&e right after so we can both respond out and keep the public safe. do you know what an reo is? >> an oreo -- >> no, not an oreo, an r-e-o. >> real estate. >> what's the e stand for? real estate owned. that's what happens when a property goes intofore closure. we call it an reo.
So that neither one of them gets shot off. >> reporter: perry has largely steered clear of the scandals and gaffes of fellow cabinet members, avoiding the extravagance of tom price and scott pruitt or moments like this from ben carson. >> do you know what an reo is? >> an oreo? >> no, not an oreo, an r-e-o. reo. >> reporter: he's had some controversial headlines, but nothing that's really stuck. >> he has an agency that hasn't come under a ton of congressional pressure. there hasn't been any epic fights related to the energy department and congress and the white house. so that's a big benefit....