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How they use data and how the data was shared. paul: it was a previous agreement. >> a previous agreement that they violated. i think they found the board didn't know or something. in some ways, i think it's a -- it was a modest response even though the fine was huge. i mean, a lot of people wanted them to go further. paul: for facebook, $5 billion is pocket change. >> right. that's the a argument. look, do we really want the ftc making these decisions or do we want congress to grapple with it and if they're going to set privacy rules, let them set clear privacy rules. in some ways, i'm gratif...

How they use data and how the data was shared. paul: it was a previous agreement. >> a previous agreement that they violated. i think they found the board didn't know or something. in some ways, i think it's a -- it was a modest response even though the fine was huge. i mean, a lot of people wanted them to go further. paul: for facebook, $5 billion is pocket change. >> right. that's the a argument. look, do we really want the ftc making these decisions or do we want congress to grapple with it and if they're going to set privacy rules, let them set clear privacy rules. in some ways, i'm gratif...