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Often than others. i find the a and the e are the vowels that get used the most, the s, t, and r. so, you have that landscape there. i don't know if you have this frustration, but a few weeks ago there was a rule that i didn't know was a rule or something you were allowed to do. and it was -- i spent -- not eight hours continuously. but eight hours had passed and it was like what is this beep-beep word. and everybody on twitter had gotten it and theye posting their little images with all their green squares and i felt like such a loser. >> it's not a competition. that's what i like about it. i...

First guess because it has -- and i read that in -- i think it was "new york times" had, like, some hints on wordle. and that was a suggested first word. and i find it very effective. do you have a first word that you use? >> i usually use "stare," s-t-a-r-e. i used to be obsessed -- i'm still obsessed. but wordle is new obsession. i love a puzzle, but i was introduced in the uk called code word. it's if sudoku and cross word had a baby. the things i learned from, i think everyone knows, okay, go for the vowels. but there are also certain letters which are used way more often than others. i fi...