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Need to know about what the plans and the intent is right now because rudy giuliani said something that i can't believe the president's team wants him to say. he said in a tweet, hey, ukraine, you're not going to get u.s. help in your anti-corruption reform efforts if you don't help me with what i'm doing with the bidens. how is that helpful to the president's impeachment case? >> it's not helpful at all. it resonates with all of the concerns being voiced by the democratic side. and it also undercuts in a significant way the president's -- one of his primary defenses, which is that he was pres...

To say. he said in a tweet, hey, ukraine, you're not going to get u.s. help in your anti-corruption reform efforts if you don't help me with what i'm doing with the bidens. how is that helpful to the president's impeachment case? >> it's not helpful at all. it resonates with all of the concerns being voiced by the democratic side. and it also undercuts in a significant way the president's -- one of his primary defenses, which is that he was pressuring ukraine not for his own benefit but rather to address legitimate corruption issues. having his own personal attorney off the grid doing god know...