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Mcclatchy owns newspapers in towns where soldiers' families were coming from. we owed it to them to explain what was going on, what the dangers of invasion was and what was wrong with the case that was being made for the invasion. is it true? >> peter you mentioned you feel some voices don't go on the air to call that a big problem. who are some of the voices that you think should be on air more often? >> one person comes to mind is andrew basovich. remarkable historian of foreign policy. also someone who serves himself as a career military officer and whose son tragically was killed in iraq. ...

Challenge is going to have to come from us. it's going to have to come from americans. and alas, that's not going to happen until americans come to appreciate all of the consequences of our misguided wars. some of those consequences are moral. some of those consequents are fiscal. i think some of those consequences are strategic. alas, in this open-ended military project that began after 9/11, the american people have pretty much checked out of the net, you know? very few of us sacrificed. not too many of us serve. none of us are even asked to pony up the money to pay for these wars. that just...

And alas, that's not going to happen until americans come to appreciate all of the consequences of our misguided wars. some of those consequences are moral. some of those consequents are fiscal. i think some of those consequences are strategic. alas, in this open-ended military project that began after 9/11, the american people have pretty much checked out of the net, you know? very few of us sacrificed. not too many of us served. none of us are even asked to pony up the money to pay for these wars. that just gets passed on to somebody -- some other generation to deal with. so, we, the people,...