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Right now and the possibility of any negotiated settlement. >> a negotiated settlement will come when the russian forces have to retreat or are ground to a halt l. and that could happen. that could happen, chris. we're seeing the ukrainian military push back hard on the russians, and they are stalled. and with that stall turns into something that the russians can't handle and can't countenance, president putin then, at that point, can go to the negotiating table. >> i wish we had more time. i saw colonel keir knee was nodding when you were saying that, that it could happen. thank you, bill tay...

War crimes might mean. >> so, chris, angela is exactly right. putin now goes into the category like hitler, stalin, mussolini, milosevic. this is a category in history that will condemn him forever. so he has brought himself into that group. and we're not talking about right now any effect of this war criminal designation. that takes investigations exactly like the u.s. government has said. however, what this does, it brands president putin as the perpetrator of these horrible crimes. it will sooner or later -- angela is right, it will sooner or later get to the russian people, what is actuall...

You need another plane to shoot the plane. we need migs or us-25 to put down their planes so they don't bomb our children and women. >> is she right about the migs? >> i believe she is. i really do. to be honest with you, i grew up in a marine corps that if the commander on the ground, this case the commander being the ukrainian people, wants something, needs something baldly, it's not up to some bureaucrat somewhere to second-guess their decision. i think it's high time we go ahead and facilitate in whatever way we can getting those migs into the hands of the ukrainian air force. >> angela, t...