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Will make its own independent decisions and all prosecutions based solely on the facts and the law, period, full stop. how do you reconcile these two? >> well, this is a great teachable moment. after the trump era, it's really important that we have presidents who do not try in any way to influence doj when it's making a decision about whether to indict a criminal case. it's easy to understand what was animating biden's concerns here. he understands that there has to be some mechanism for congress to enforce its subpoenas or congress, in essence, becomes a toothless tiger in exercising its ove...

Possibly drop the clean energy program? how significant of a loss will that be? >> well, thank you very much, yasmin. first of all, i wouldn't say that the president is on the side of the progressives. this is the biden economic agenda that he ran on. people voted for president biden based on what we're putting forth in terms of investments in the build back better bill. having said that, we have to look at what is at stake right now. we know that the climate crisis, it's an emergency. it's upon us. you just look at the wildfires, look at hurricanes, you see how the weather is changing, the pl...

Times" his promises to ban race theory, quote, drew some of the loudest applause, even though it's really not a part of virginia classroom teaching. with me to talk about this, msnbc political analyst and republican strategist susan del percio and democratic strategist atima omara. there's the whole trump factor amidst all this, so we know biden took the vote in virginia. young kin got the endorsement from trump. he's not fully embraced donald trump but still trying to embrace donald trump and ends that he can't alienate that suburban voter. talk about the trump factor in this race. >> yasmin,...

Two reasons. this is the first major election during a biden presidency and obviously we are essentially one year out from midterm elections. and the headlines will be referendum on biden. how do they make this happen? >> i do believe it will be seen as a referendum. i think more so now in an previous gubernatorial races, which are always off years in virginia, because virginia has turned so blue. it's no longer even close to a purple state. so it is up to terry mcauliffe to bring it and bring in a strong win because, frankly, this administration needs a win desperately and it may seem that th...