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media. the suspect only 21 years old, was a member of the massachusetts national guard's 10 2nd intelligence wing. fallout over the leak is continuing as many of the shared documents -- assuming they are legitimate -- reveal the depth that u.s. intelligence had penetrated russia's military. other documents contained the troop movements of russian soldiers. the leak's impact is far reaching and will, no doubt, damage u.s. interests and has immediate implications percent war in ukraine. let's bring in retired four-star general jack keane, he's chairman of the institute for the study of...

Now. as a more general proposition, that was an interesting clip we just had. he is defending conservative principles, but he's doing it in a way that sort of holds out the possibility of conciliation with people who don't agree with him. he is trying to make an argument that others should consider conservative principles such as self-discipline, sense of responsibility. he is a appealing to the center in that respect. and so it's going to be very interesting whether someone who is going down that road of belligerence, say like donald trump or ron desantis, can make headway. pepe. paul: kim, t...