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We learned much more about the ukraine side of the whistle-blower story. i'm joined by ann applebaum. she's the author of "red famine." anne, let me ask you first, why is ukraine playing such a big role? if you step back, what explains this, you know -- why are we -- why did ukraine become such a later part of this story? >> so it's very important to remember that donald trump brought ukraine into america politics when he hired paul manafort to be his campaign manager. paul lived in kiev, spent much

>> it's vicious, vicious. and the state of american politics today. and cracking the code on kiev. ann applebaum is back with us to help us understand who is what on the ukrainian side of the story. first my take. donald trump finally got to see the kind of military parade he longed for. unfortunately for him, it was in beijing, not washington. you'll recall that in 2018 trump directed the pentagon to put on a lavish show of arms to demonstrate america's might. when news of the costs got out, an estimated $92 million, he scuttled the plan and settled for a far more modest fourth of july ...

We learned much more about the ukraine side of the whistleblower sorry this week. to help us make sense of all of this, i'm joined again by ann applebaum, a foreign affairs columnist for washington post. she's the author of "red famine stalin's war on ukraine". ann, why is ukraine playing such a big role in all of this? like, if you step back, is there -- what explains this, you know, why are we -- why did ukraine become such a large part of this story? >> it's very important to remember that donald trump brought ukraine into american politics when he hired paul manafort to be his ukraine mana...

Everything is a fight. everything is a disruption, congress can't get its work done. it gets disrupted and they could agree. this is a dangerous time for us, but i believe in the american people. they have more judgment than we sometimes give them credit for, and they will fix it. as long as they know where to go to help fix it and how to get it done. i think they have that inherent knowledge. so i believe in us. >> thank you very much. >> thank you, fareed. our thanks to the new albany foundation for hosting that event. next on gps we'll dig deeper into the eye crainian side of the story....

Abusing his privilege as the head of the leader of u.s. foreign policy, to extract dirt from ukraine. this is a white house which -- niche the president is personalitily profiting off the fact he's president. his children are as well. the u.s. banks and u.s.-linked tax havens are one of the things that have made it possible for people to steal money and launder money from places like the ukraine. the united states is implicated in creating all kinds of corruption around the world. the fact that we refuse to stop it indicates that our system is deeply problematic as well. anne applebaum, alwa...