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Anna casperian, steve cortez, good to have you on the show. welcome back. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> the president spent part of this 9/11 doing the absolute right thing. he was conveying empathy and remembering what needs to be remembered on this day. then he started doing other things. trashing poles, trashing his latest top aide to exit this white house, john bolton. we are now learning that he could make a very unconventional pick to fill his role. we have reaction from a national security big wig in congress. what are his concerns on 9/11, what does he see as the course forward. next....

That seems like it's a danger, why doesn't that rationale apply to gun violence? that's the start of tonight's great debate. we have anna casperian and steve cortez. good to. you both. anna first. if you agree with that premise that it should apply to gun violence, why? >> well, i think that it makes sense to legalize and regulate things, so i am not against getting rid of or banning all guns, but it makes sense to regulate, have common sense regulation for guns. the same goes for substances. banning substances has not worked out so well for americans or american history. we have imprisoned so...

Where it does not infringe on the constitutional rights. again, we're not talking about vaping here. >> we already have -- i don't know if you're a gun owner, but let me tell you how the process works. when you go in there, they run a background check if you buy it at a gun store. why wouldn't you apply that same thing to commercial transactions? >> it's only private transactions that are not subject to the nics laws. and, listen, i think it would make sense -- >> that's not true. when you go to go shows, it doesn't count. you don't -- >> if a dealer is at a gun show -- >> there are a lot of p...

Abili able. he might have the right instinction after a shooting, but money talks. that's why we don't get -- >> anna casperian says it's not going to happen. what do you say, steve? do you think the red flag law, universal background checks will pass? >> red flag law is a whole different can of worms and that worries me greatly. i fear that we're talking about local governments having far too much power to take away constitutional rieg constitutional rights from individuals. that's a different conversation. expanded background checks, i believe it is going to happen. i caution people i don't ...