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Aspersions on the sentence as much as to say it was stunning. and it's certainly a very harsh sentence given the charges. >> what's interesting on the outside, it appeared to be a pretty cut and dry case. at least that's how it was presented. a mastermind creates this underground website forry in tearious -- forry in y infef airious business. drugs, guns. what is your take? >> well, my take -- you can watch the movie the take would take a while. the real sit what you're dealing with is an anonymous and private community on the internet that's been growing for decade. and the markets like silk ...

Reason it took off, was it combined the anon-imity technology with bit coin a digital currency that is capable of being anonymised. it's not strength anons mouse, it's trackable -- anonymous, it's trackable. but once you combine bit coin with the dark net, they were off to the races. >> it motivation was what, ♪ >> -- money? >> politics it seems. the community that i was embedded with and dealing with architects of the silk road -- they were radical -- aarp trying to use technology to change drug policy. if they were staunch -- they were staunch opponents of the drug car. they felt it was a ...