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Or is it, as it is for so many people, the kind of slow-moving, frog-boiling experiment, of rolling moments every day? >> well, when i talk to people inside the government, inside the intelligence community, inside the defense department, i sense a huge frustration. because their job, in many respects, is to support a policy process, and there is no policy process. there are no deputies meetings, principals meetings. there's no regular order in the way policy is made. i think the woodward book explains this. the anonymous author explains this, as well. the president makes up policies and fires...

Issue to say that we do not pressure the attorney general or the fbi to use the criminal justice system to punish political opponents. >> reporter: he hasn't spoken to obama since inauguration day in 2017 responded to obama's hour long speech like this. >> i watched it but i fell asleep. i found he is very good, very good for sleeping. >> reporter: trump made clearest's also worried about democrats in midterm elections, planting early seeds of argument against impeachment. >> we will impeach him, but he didn't do anything wrong. it doesn't matter, we will impeach him! we will impeach. but i sa...

There are no principles meetings. there's no regular order in the way policy is made. i think the woodward book explains this. the anonymous author explains this, as well. the president makes up policies and fires them off and decides things at whim without the input of facts, information, expertise. intelligence, and deliberation, so we're getting a horrible result. the thing i worry about, brian, is we're coming to the mid terms that many people inside the government who are trying to do a good job are going to leave. they'll say, we served two years and are going to leave with reputations i...

Sense a huge frustration. because their job, in many respects, is to support a policy process, and there is no policy process. there are no deputies meetings, principals meetings. there's no regular order in the way policy is made. i think the woodward book explains this. the anonymous author explains this, as well. the president makes up policies and fires them off and decides things at whim without the input of facts, infrastructur facts, expertise. we're getting a horrible result. the thing i worry about, coming to the midterms, many people inside the government who are trying to do a good ...

The executive branch? does this person have access to top-secret information? is there a national security srisk? if he or she has a problem with the president or his agenda, they should quit immediately. but if they are going to undermine the president, and it deals with intelligence, sources, methods, national security, what if the president was talking about potentially having to go to war against an enemy? are they going to undermine t that, too? think about how profound and dangerous that could be in spite of the gutless and cowardly hiding behind what are swamp attacks that we get every ...