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Campaign, that was the iconic moment, there's no question about that. >> take us to obama campaign headquarters when you discovered this video. as i understand it, they found out about it almost as soon as mother jones put it out there. >> yeah. actually, folks came into my office and were stunned by it. this is going to be really impactful. of course, you immediately saw that it would. as i said, we had been building a case for some time that romney was not attune to the experience of large numbers of americans struggling in this economy, working hard, trying to get ahead and running into obs...

The life of the programs. this is the game that's going on. will there be a grand bargain or a little bargain? i suspect it's smaller. there's a deal working through the course. >> we have gone from there has to be a deal, this is a disas r disaster, you can't allow the sequester to happen to the sequester happened and there's the president saying well, ultimately, if we can't get a deal -- they are saying things that include the possibility there won't be a deal and the sequester will be what we live with here. >> he's saying it's not the end of the world if we don't reach a grand bargain. i ...

You have not just 47% of the country, but slightly more than that that would have your back if people came after you. but, you know, where he lives in florida is a conservative area. it only takes a couple rich people to come after you to change your life. he has reasonable concerns, they are being addressed by having this. >> he was talking to other people, jonathan alter said he has been talking to him for a couple months and he's going to use some of the material from him in an upcoming book. did you have a sense of how many people in the media had direct contact with him like you did? >> i...

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