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>> you think that's where the bo on the many falls out? >> i they so. >> i feel like the bottom has to fall out. i'm hoping for it. one way you get rid of trump is crashing economy. >> martha: hoping for recession. hoping for recession. . that is all part of the derangement that people talk about. the same thing that got the reuters editor in trouble. they just severely dislike the president. some of it is related to his style. really not related to the policies. i challenge, i'm sure i'll get lit up on twitter, but challenge to you come up with one policy over the last 17 or 18 months that th...

It ends up dispersing from the white house in a ridiculous, anonymous way. >> martha: a lot of people like to talk. >> yes. anonymously. they run out, get their cell phone out of the locker, run the outside, and they, like, chiter-chattering. it's not fair. i have had issues with general kelly in the past, he has issues with me. but i think he's owed right expect, frankly, of having that conversation with the president. he's been a decorated veteran, he served his country well, and should be able to leave gracefully. >> martha: i want to play something for you. watch the contrast between what ...

For this situation. when you think about the quality of the people that the president is going to pick from and interview, they're all exceptional americans, exceptional people. i hope we can dial it back a little on the politics. >> martha: in terms of the white house, the chief of staff yesterday made comments, kellyanne conway came out, we have no indication john kelly is leaving the white house. tonight it sounds like the president opened the door. >> it's the president's choice. chief of staff kelly wants to leave he can leave voluntarily. it's going to be up to the two of them. we can sp...