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You don't want to say anything about the senator calling -- suggesting you have been gelded before the world and it's not anything that bothers you? >> i checked. i'm fully intact. >> karoun, for me, that answer works. what do you think the optics are? he's only out there because he's told to be out there and told to be showing an unified property. >> this is a little bit odd. >> i feel for you, karoun. it is tough material. >> he is trying to put a lid on everything. they are trying to show some unity here. of course tillerson doesn't want to out and out lie. people have reported what he said...

Highest diplomat thinks the president doesn't know what he is talking about. whether you think that or not is of the utmost relevance, michael. >> they are trying to play a deliberate good cop, bad cop. it goes against the idea they are all working in concert. errol is right. he said it. if he didn't, he would say to jake yesterday, i didn't say that. but he didn't do that. >> and another thing about his own effectiveness, whether they are more united now. here is the secretary of state's take on whether or not he is fully intact. >> you have a cattle ranch. you don't want to say anything abou...