Why do these owners end up caving to donald trump? why is there so much capitulation to this rhetoric? >> it is amazing. as part of our reporting, ken bell son, my colleague at the times, we had sort of a cassette or a secret tape of a secret meeting between a bunch of owners and players last october during the height of the anthem thing. what really jumped out to me during just in hearing that audio is just these billionaires who have -- who are sitting on this cash cow are just flipped out by what's donald going to say next? how do we avoid triggering him next week and the week after? and yo...