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You, because they love me. i'm messing with you. i have to say something. you made a good point about something. you listen to conservative and like oh, my gosh, don lemon is defending and supporting an -- they take one smattering of what you say and leave out a whole thing. i think you made the point exactly on your program when you were talking to steve cortez about anti-fa. >> it's wrong. nobody is supporting that. >> there's no reason to support anybody who breaks the law. there's no reason to draw moral -- as if everybody finding against hate is the worst thing about it. anyway, let me le...

Whether the confederate monuments of these generals are part of southern heritage, there are people on both sides. that's a first amendment right to debate that and march on that and protest on that. that's what he was trying to say. >> let's look at what -- >> hang on. if you talk about the neo-nazis and the neo-confederates and the kkk and anti-fa, i think the president has beened ed ed eda saying both those parties are wrong, both parties shouldn't be allowed to come there and start to cause havoc. >> this is what the president said. let's go to the words. quote, i think there is blame on b...

Are the same. anti-fa exists to be anti-fascist and he is a supporter of fascists. no matter how many times he tries to sprinkles on the turd, we know what it is, we know how it smells, we know how dangerous it is. any man like this who wants to be a part of american mainstream politics is a danger and he should be called as such. >> steve, your reaction to any and all of the above? >> he's verbally dexterous enough to do what he did, legitimize these neo-nazi groups to place them into the mainstream of american politics. well, these people are radical, but there's radical people on the other ...

>> he's been absolutely adamant about this. that's what i'm saying. when you talk about the confederate monuments, whether they should stay or not or be covered or not, the president is saying there is good people on both sides. okay? when you talk about the people that come there for violence, he's condemned those people. he condemned the neo-confederates. he condemned the neo-nazis and the kkk. he also condemned antifa. if you look at "cuomo" the other night, the problem with the left and the problem with the mainstream media, you're giving them a complete free pass. they are just as violent...

Be a hero. but if there's violence and people get killed as a result of that, that is also his responsibility. if there is violence and we have a new anti-fa he owns that. >> i want to ask you about this, david gergen, because today the house speaker paul ryan said the house gop caucus plans to work on entitlement reform to tackle the debt and deficit. is this a big admission? you. >> yeah. and i think -- i think -- there are so many things going on. they have a lot of camouflage. the country isn't focusing. it was attention deficit disorder in this administration. things happen every five min...